Congrats to all those who converted IIM B... n the best is yet to come... wait for it... :P
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Hi Sid1989 and robby_chillz.... lets meet at WIMWI..:clap:

how many of u r having both IIM B and IIM C final calls ??? and whihc one are you planning to join:):)???

I know many of you might b waiting 4 IIM A .... but dont consider IIM A call as of now.... just keep that thought aside for a while and answer this Q:biggrin:

PS: neither im having both calls nor want to compare the institutes, its, just that im curious to know ....


Dude... I have converted both... Still not decided.. I talked to a frnd in IIMB .. He suggested bangalore... Lemme see... Partying as of now...
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my form reached FMS on 2nd april... but i didn't get any mail yet... is someone else facing the same problem??
plzz help...
@nwelife-I don't say that whatever you said is wrong, but i like to assert that capital punishment should be abolished .Reason :1 You mention about kasab prosecution -yes he did crime that is merciless and should be punished ,but what was the root of his crime that needs to be taken into account.....Was he a criminal by birth?the ans is no.Kasab was young and was driven into this by exploitation of religious faiths,false ideology.....young age coupled with economic conditions drove kasab to this path.....
now you see the paradox that it is society which made him criminal and it is society which kills him through legal system....

2-It may also be taken into account that once a person is hanged to death through capital punishment ,he can't be made alive by any means.Sometimes an innocent person might be put to death.Our judicial system is not transparent.It depends upon the witnesses only and that may be false or fake.
3-i do not find validity in the deterrent effect of Capital punishment .Had it been so,there would not have been any murder or rape in our country.

I beg to differ with your view.
1) How far can getting influenced by the society be justified? If that was the case, 90% of poor Muslims should turn out to be terrorists. Society has a framed set of rules which do not change. When u commit a felony, it is a matter of free will. No one is compelled to commit murder, robbery or rape.
2)The test for deterrence is not whether executions produce lower murder rates, but that executions produce fewer murders than if the death penalty did not exist. The fact is that the murder trials extend for longer periods of time. Had the judgements been quick, there would have been a significant decline in the murder rates.
I would like to quote during Constituent Assembly debates, a member of Constituent Assembly while opposing an amendment demanding partial ban on capital punishment, said, I think that with the growth of consciousness, with the development of society, the State should revise a punishment of this nature" So, at that point we had thought that with the passage of time, we will be making changes to the nature of punishment.

do u think the consciousness has really grown?? the society has really developed??. The consciousness has to grow among the people. I never said that the countries which have not abolished death sentence have not given a thought about it. I never said that the nature of punishment need not change. I was indeed saying that death penalty should not be abolished in certain cases where the crimes tend to be very brutal. Adding to the fact that we condemn the British for hanging Bhagat singh, Raj guru etc.. will u really oppose if India decides to hang Ajmal Kasab today?? or will awarding a life imprisonment to Kasab really help in reducing the terrorism?
And also, while many countries are abolishing death sentence, India, the birth place of Mahatma Gandhi, has not yet abolished it. Is it because we don't know the meaning of humanity??:shock:
There are arguments both for and against death penalty. In countries like Thailand and Indonesia, there has been a significant decline in drug trafficking as a result of implementation of death penalty for drug- related offences. In the arab countries, crimes against women are extremely rare.
Though the above examples support death penalty, there is always the risk of miscarriage of justice. In such cases, improvement of judicial processes is a good solution rather than abolishing death penalty. There are many countries that have abolished death sentences and later had to change their stance as a result of brutal murders, terrorism etc. Even in India, the world's largest democracy, death sentence is awarded in "rarest of the rare cases".
According to me, death penalty should not be completely abolished. In certain cases such as terrorism, brutal murders,etc. death penalty should be implemented. However, in the case of lesser crimes, death penalty needs to be substituted by life imprisonment.:
"Positive Discrimination is like paying for the past "

The statement speaks for itself !!

The term Positive is important here !! Discrimination in a positive sense - In a democratic society like ours , there is always a sense of imbalanced growth .To stabilize this , opportunities to counter the imbalance have to be forced.The imbalance need not be caste always.Poverty,Geographical inaccessibility or remoteness,war prone zones,extreme climate zones,sons of the soil with reduced opportunities also form valid cases for Positive discrimination . Now,coming to the second part ,"paying for the past" is actually misleading . Positive discrimination is not paying for the past but it is "paying for the impact of the past " . It can be evidently seen that that impact created by the past is evidently visible in the present.

We have a case in which we associate discrimination with the following

1)Caste based

2)Gender based

The latter is partially justified,as many would agree that this has generally resulted in the uplifting of the so called "second sex".
The former has always been a topic of debate and rightly,we see a shift in the priority from pure caste based to "caste+income" based !! The shift has to be gradual so as to maintain the balance of the nation. In all these cases ,Positive Discrimination is not like paying for the past -It is like investing in the future !!

I disagree with your point that reservation to women is justified. For example, among the 59 women MPs in Lok Sabha, 40 are from families with political backgrounds. Now, giving a 33% reservation to women may end up merely increasing the "dynastic politics". So, i think that the same thing that has happened in the case of caste-based reservations may also happen here. :wow:
Instead of giving a 33% reservation straight away, i think starting off with a small percentage and gradually increasing it with certain necessary changes to ensure that all sections of women(rural and urban:o) get equal chance will be a good idea.