no doubt about it being the rite course but not sure about the right time for experienced guys like me, najmuddin,other puys to join.
just trying to put things in perspective..
Just to put things in perspective...
First of all, MS&E; is a top notch program and in Stanford University. The university's name alone makes the competition for all its programs extremely fierce, and MS&E; is no exception. Although prior work-ex is not required, but even with work-ex it's pretty difficult to get an admit. Further, the admission committee puts a lot of importance on academics, research work & publications apart from work-ex, like all the other MS programs.
Stanford has quality applicant from around the world, so if an Indian student wants to edge out the competition, he needs to have super quality work-ex combined with extremely high GRE score
to compensate for lack of other factors in his profile. Also, you might need an IIT/BITS/NIT stamp on your degree to back up your application.
I know all this because I had applied to MS&E; this year without success. I know a couple of ppl with better GRE scores who didn't make the cut.
Further as an international student in the US job market, it would be really beneficial and almost necessary to have some prior work-ex, although that makes you feel a little bit older in the class.
I'd also like to mention something about the LFM program since on this thread quite a few times baccardisprite has pointed towards it.
LFM is a highly competitive program and if you look at the student profile, all of them are nearly exceptional. The average age of students is even slightly higher than that of Sloan MBA and so is the case with average work-ex. They need prior work-ex in manufacturing or operations. Also, they don't even conduct their interviews in India. The closest location is Singapore.
Obviously I am not discouraging anyone from applying, but just want everyone to be sure about the expectations of the admission committee. Please visit the LFM homepage to get more clarity.
Further, while applying for an MS in top US universities like MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Michigan etc, one needs to be aware that these universities give a lot of weightage to academics, research, publications, extra-curriculars etc and work-ex simply can't compensate for a lack of these critical components in your profile (there are exceptions of course). Further, the Indian work-ex in IT would rarely help.
I feel that the preparation for application to these universities should start early, preferably in the first or second year of the undergrad degree itself.
I would request baccardisprite to guide us all on this particular issue. Since most of the Puys here have already completed their degrees or are near completion, we can't go back and change anything related to academics or research. So if an average guy like me, who is not the topper of his batch/university, doesn't have significant research experience, has no papers published under his name or has none co-authored, but instead has quality work-ex (maybe for some in R&D;), has leadership experience or possibly something to demonstrate the leadership potential, has good extra-curricular activities etc wants to take a shot and apply, what should he do? What should one show in his profile which can make it attractive despite lacking in other areas like those mentioned above?
I guess a stellar GRE score (eg. >1550) can help only to a certain extent, but not beyond that.
Just to make myself clear, I am talking about this from the perspective of ALL
MS programs, including those in industrial engg and operations, also MS&E; to a certain extent.
These are my personal views. Apologies if anywhere in my post I have misrepresented the facts or messed up with available information.