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Is this a good time to take up an educational loan?

One of the main reasons the global financial crisis took place was because of excessive debt/loans taken by people in America. Just recently I met someone who had completed his MBA.  

This person had recently started working in USA after completing his MBA there. Everything seemed excellent; he had a fancy foreign MBA degree, an expensive car and a high paying job. He was living the American dream and spending quite well, since he has a big fat salary. However one fine day everything changed – he lost his high paying finance job and had to return to India. He had to return his car which was purchased on EMI.

He had spent around USD 150,000 overall to complete his MBA and living expenses and like several other people he had taken a loan. But now the main problem he has is that in India, it is very difficult for him to repay such a large amount of loan.  

His father was his guarantor and now the entire family has a lot of stress, thinking how they will repay such a large loan. He has still not been able to find a job here and even if he does find a job, he would be paid much less here as compared to America. Today he and his family are under a lot of stress and are hoping they find a solution. If the bank doesn’t get their money back, they will go behind the ‘guarantor’s’ assets, in his case his father will have to somehow arrange those funds.  

Even though an MBA in India is cheaper than international ones, it does cost a couple of lakhs. I’m sure many of you might be thinking of taking a loan and doing an MBA in India, but before you blindly take a loan, think about the job market and if it really makes sense to take a loan.  

Most MBA salaries quoted by institutions are exaggerated. An average MBA graduate can be hired for Rs. 2.5 – Rs. 3 lakhs a year. Visit any regular MBA college and ask the final year students about placements and average salaries, they will tell you the reality. Salaries quoted and the cash actually received in hand is also very different. Quite a sizeable position of salaries are kept variable and performance based, specially in times like now employers get the opportunity to bargain even more.  There are colleges, where placements are barely 20%-30% and most students are trying to find jobs on their own or are becoming entrepreneurs.  

My simple advice would be to not take a loan today and work for one or two years, to gain valuable work experience and also build earn some money that will be able to fund your own education. Academics and the real world are very different, what can be learnt within six months of working can never be learnt throughout an MBA course.  

MBA courses all over the world are considered to be at par with PHDs and LLMs, however in India lately it seems an MBA course has become as common as a regular graduation. This means a huge oversupply of MBA grads and that pushes salaries downward.  

Having the funds and then spending it on an MBA, will give you and your family peace of mind after graduating. Working will also give you the necessary confidence and skills needed to make the most of your MBA degree.  

Fresh graduates might also not realize that an MBA degree isn’t just about lectures and PPT presentation. One of the most important things in business are people and contacts. For instance I remember one of my friends who was in his early 30s joining LBS (London Business School) for creating new business and professional contacts, as he would be getting the opportunity to interact with a lot of influential people.  

I can understand how a lot of fresh graduates might be very eager to take an educational loan and immediately join an MBA degree. However don’t get carried away by the hype and invest money and two years of your life, speak to people who have completed their MBA degree. They will be able to help you understand the realities much better. Today thanks to the internet and web forums like PagalGuy.com here, it becomes even easier for aspiring MBAs to interact with seniors and people who have already completed their MBA.  

A college prospectus is not the best way you can find out more about the college you want to study in, but a simple talk with an ex-student is.  

I’m sure that there will be quite a few people who might not fully agree with what I am saying and might put forward a few arguments. I have heard quite a few people telling me that since the job market is bad now, it makes sense to go and do an MBA and be comfortable in a B-school. By the end of two years, everything should be all right and back to normal.  

But firstly, how do we know everything is going to be better by the end of two years? What if things are worse than they are today? If the bubble took so many decades to be created, it is quite likely that it will take several years for the bubble to deflate. I agree that today finding a job might be more challenging, however anyone who starts working today will put in his/her best to make sure costs are minimized and efficiency is increased. The real world experience that can be gained from this rare incident will surely teach a lot of new things and will make you stronger.  Personally what I am learning in the world of investing is extremely exciting and I thank my stars to have given me this opportunity.  

In fact today the economy needs people who are creative and can come up with new solutions. If you are someone who can reduce costs even by 10% because of your skills and knowledge, you will be handsomely rewarded. Companies are more open to new creative ideas when times are challenging as they are desperately looking for new solutions.  

An MBA shouldn’t be used as something that can help you escape from the challenges of the real world, but instead should be used as something that will give you valuable skills. Education and knowledge are definitely an asset, but ask yourself if an MBA degree is the only way you learn new things?  

To move ahead in life, you don’t necessarily need to follow what everybody around you is doing, but instead listen to your own heart. What might seem right today, might not necessarily be right tomorrow. Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns were filled with the best PHDs and MBAs of the world, and we all know what happened to them and on the other hand Dhirubhai Ambani worked as a petrol pump attendant.  

Today I know of MBAs who are working in call centres and are extremely frustrated with life. They had a different image in their mind about how life would be after an MBA. It really might not be worth spending several lakhs on an institute which isn’t going to help you gain new skills. I hope more people realize this and don’t look at an MBA degree to a guaranteed way to success and riches. Have an open mind and spend some time in learning more!
 
Yogesh Chabria is an investor and bestselling author of Invest The Happionaireâ„¢ Way. In his next book published by CNBC-TV18 and titled ‘Happionaire’s Cash The Crash’, he shares little known secrets on how to make the most of the crash. You can find out more about him by visiting www.happionaire.com.

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saurabhtcs
#1 March 23, 2009, 3:26 pm

This is a demotivating way of looking at things…No one, atleast the people i know, is doing MBA to keep themselves safe at some B-School in this time of recession. I agree that an MBA is not very secure(if the economy does not revive) but i argue, so not very is your job. Who can assure that you will not lose you job in the coming 6 months. And regarding the revival of economy, i completely differ with Mr Chabria. We are on a good track. Sectors are showing revival signs. Whats needs to be corrected is the mindset of people like you, me and others who think that recession will last forever. Recession is policy generated and emotion driven. Once the emotions change to smiles, we will see world going happy again…

rppandey
#2 March 23, 2009, 9:08 pm

First and foremost – the max loan in India, on which the case study's father could be guarantor is 20 lakhs. EMI 36 thousand per month. An MBA with international experience in Indian job will be able to pay the loan.

Moving aside the technical issue, the article is overtly simpllistic, and pessimist, perhaps to keep it in flavour with the 'overall mood'. Even today IIMSs have close to 80% placement and an excellent ROI. The article compares apples (US MBA) with oranges (Indian university MBAs) , and then declares all fruits (MBA loans) as bad. Ridiculous !!!

The decision has to be on a case to case basis. If a person from a small town university gets in IIMA taking loan makes sense. On other hand, if an IIT passout, with a job in hand, gets an offer from some unknown institute for MBA then it makes no sense. The esteemed author simply ignores these faces and makes his comments. While taking loans might not be the best case right now, its still better than not having any job in hand, and getting frustrated in hand.

And, just out of context, I think the number of frustrated petrol pump attendants, after 30 years of service, is still more than number of frustrated MBAs, after 30 years of experience.

gj0628
#3 March 24, 2009, 8:10 am

I really beg to differ from the two comments posted above. I think people are getting too defensive without understanding the simple msg the article contains. The only thing the learned author is trying to say is, in my opinion, that we shouldn't have a herd mentality and blindly do something everyone else is doing. Every Tom, Dick and Harry is doing an MBA these days. Look around and you will know it is true. MBA has become something as basic as a bachelors degree and there IS an oversupply of MBA grads. Obviously that is going to bring the salaries down – that's basic economics. The author is merely suggesting that instead of getting admitted to just about any MBA institute in the hopes that the job market will revive by the end of 2 years and everything will be rosy, it makes more sense to get some work experience, especially if you would have to take a loan to fund your expensive MBA course. It makes more sense to earn some money and fund your education instead of taking a loan. A loan does cause significant amount of stress – whether it is 6 lacs or 60 lacs. A liability is a liability. And pray, what if you realise after a few months of working that that hyped up management job isn't even for you? That you don't like it and you want to pursue a different calling all together? Imagine being tied down to your job, not having the freedom to do what you want..slogging just because you have to pay the bills and that 36k EMI (which is peanuts acc to Mr. Pandey)… I wanted to go abroad for my LLM, and that's not cheap by any standards. Like any self respecting person, I would've taken a loan instead of borrowing money from my family to fund it. That would've been 20-25 lacs easily. But then I thought. let's get some work ex first and lo and behold, what do I realise 6 months into being a lawyer? That I don't even want to be a lawyer!!Imagine if I had taken that loan… I would've had to spend at least 3 years of my life trying to pay it back. 3 years of stress, frustration, depression, unhappiness…would anyone like that?
And the author is not negative or has written the article keeping with the current "mood". If you have read any of his previous writings, you would realise his is the only optimistic voice in the present scenario. He's not being negative or discouraging you from joining MBA, he's just asking you to explore other possibilities. Not blindly do what has been conventionally done. If you have the money, go for an MBA by all means. But if you have to take a loan, would it be so bad to get some work ex (and your own money) first? Is MBA the only way to acquire new skills? Anyone who is working will know the stark difference between what is taught in books & colleges and how things really are in the real world.What you learn from hands-on experience in the real world, no book or institute in the world can teach you. If only you read the article with an open mind would you understand what is being said. It's a pity people on this forum are reacting this way. So much for being broad minded and well educated… Are we really that afraid of change and exploring new ideas and new ways of doing things?
Ps-Dear Mr. Saurabh & Mr.Pandey, you really need to put things into perspective.

rajat_rath
#4 March 24, 2009, 8:14 am

This is really a sensible article but for colleges ranking beyond top 25 in INIDA. I would like to say a student has toiled for a year may be 2 in some cases. Now he gets into a top 25 college in INDIA, and he is said not to join, then it will be an utter wastage of his preparation his money and the skills learnt. We are at a stage when we have to take into consideration other factors also like our parent's retirement, our marriages,etc. So I persuade students to join a reputed b school if he or she gets it. Please dont have a second thought about it. Regarding the current economic scenario. It should revive by 2014 otherwise our current jobs will be gone. So a person passing out in 2011 and 2012 would be having 3 yrs of work ex with him by 2014, which will be a boon in disguise.

ishu.kapoor
#5 March 24, 2009, 11:43 am

The central idea of the article is that MBA should not been scene as the only way to success. Every one has their own situations, challenges and one go by it. If you feel MBA will enchance ur skills and add to your personality then you should definately go for it..be it good time or bad times. Since you know MBA is added advantage for you it will pay returns sooner or later. But just because some XYZ is going for MBA and if you feel MBA should be done then you will be caught on the wrong foot. There are millions of ways to earn fat money and lead a luxurious life which we all dream of and MBA is not the only way to achieve it.

It is about what you actually want to do and whats your aim in life.
Also the article tells people to be little wiser in the tough times rather than driven by what others say. People might not believe but i have few frends who have quite IIMs, HARVARD even after converting there calls and they are successfull.

The article asks us to be smarter, plan our loves cleverly, look for your long term goals..introspect and see do really need to be an MBA for what you wanna be and if the ans is yes there is no stopping u.

All this talks of economy improving and gaining peak in one,two three years is based on specualtions.

Nobody realized that economy will nosedive after seeing peaks in Jan 2008. Even the corporates like TATA are facing challenges and signed multi billion dollars deal as they overlooked the bubble.

So dont plan your future based on speculations. Things may improve in coming few months and may not for years. Its upto us see what is the best way for us to sail through it and come out strongly.

rppandey
#6 March 24, 2009, 7:17 pm

The article asks people to think sensibly. However, it quite senselessly ends up advicing loans are bad for all.
Also oversupply of Nano's doesn't effect the price of Rolls Royce, though economy does

ajay.kamat
#7 March 29, 2009, 6:12 am

I think this article is biased towards freshers. Those who do not have any money in their hands. Wat about those who have already earned for 2-3 yrs. Is Mr. Chabria asking them to work for 2-3 yrs more, then start preparing for entrance tests again.
I think max age of studying is in the range from 25-27.. The work ex guys/girls would have crossed that age.. When will they do MBA then??..
Also loans are not bad.. Don't discourage an instrument just because that instrument created a failure in some other country.. US market failed due to bad re-structuring of their loans.. Converting them into securities.. We don't have that principle here..
Also re-payment period lasts from 5-7 yrs after completing the education.. I think even with a decent job someone will be able to pay back that loan, keeping other plans on hold..
And Mr Chabria, I think u r considering every recession to be a great depression, which lasted for 10 yrs.. This recession might end early..
P.S: Strictly personal opinions..

caterpilar
#8 April 20, 2009, 1:00 pm

Mr. Chabria we may avoid discussing RELIANCE and the way it works.

Any ways, Who is Dhiru Bhai Ambani ????

prachifun
#9 April 21, 2009, 4:17 am

I agree with Yogesh Chabria, for an loan beyond 8-12Lkhs.
As for a loan upto 5-6L is quite decent and managable for a person with 2+ yrs work-ex.

diba_perfect
#10 April 29, 2009, 8:26 pm

recession or boom an MBA from a top-15 Indian B-School was, is and will always be worth the money spent..not because of the "money spent-placement bagged" equation but because of the business acumen one develops(YES!)..I guess Mr. Chabria should learn to look beyond only the monetary ROI factor of doing an MBA and stop preaching generic gyan like "MBAs working in call centres"..showing others the real side of life is an interesting past time but if you can't encourage ppl in these dark times you simply don't have the right to discourage them atleast..doesn't your "happionare" philosophy tell you anything similar?

diba_perfect
#11 April 29, 2009, 8:29 pm

recession or boom an MBA from a top-15 Indian B-School was, is and will always be worth the money spent..not because of the "money spent-placement bagged" equation but because of the business acumen one develops(YES!)..I guess Mr. Chabria should learn to look beyond only the monetary ROI factor of doing an MBA and stop preaching generic gyan like "MBAs working in call centres"..showing others the real side of life is an interesting past time but if you can't encourage ppl in these dark times you simply don't have the right to discourage them atleast..does your "happionare" formula prescribe only a "ship be safe in the harbour and don't sail" philosophy?

mehtamanas
#12 May 06, 2009, 9:11 am

Is the author of this article an MBA.My guess is even if he is then he is not from the top 10 colleges in India.Because the article clearly lacks that mindset and the tenacity.I would never write a column quoting the unheard of experiences of some unknown friends.Nothing else to say.

sugandha3
#13 May 08, 2009, 6:19 am

@caterpilar – BRAVO! well summed up the etire article & commentary :)

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