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Only 4% affected by unfair testing conditions, claim IIMs

In their latest statement released today, the India Institutes of Management claim to have unearthed patterns of problems faced by candidates during the ten-day period of CAT 2009 between November 28 and Dec 8. Asserting that a retest was not needed since only 4% of the test-takers had been affected by the unfair testing conditions, the IIMs have contradicted their own precedent of 2003 when the CAT question paper was leaked to a much smaller number of people and yet a retest was ordered.

The full text of the statement is reproduced below.

“The IIMs opted for computerized CAT 2009 to enhance the quality of test including providing a more conducive environment for testing as compared to paper and pencil test. It is indeed our regret that despite best efforts a number of candidates faced difficulties during this test window of Nov 28-Dec 8, 2009.

About 2.42 lakh candidates registered for CAT 2009. In the first administration window (i.e., from November 28 to Dec 8, 2009) about 2.16 lakh candidates completed the test. About 10% of the total registered applicants (24,000) did not show up for the test – a percentage that is similar to what has been experienced in the past. The remaining 2,000 candidates who were rescheduled remain to be tested.

A very large majority of candidates, over 2 lakhs, completed the test successfully. It is estimated that about 8,000 students may have faced difficulty of various kinds in completing the test. The various problems faced by these candidates have been categorized based on the emails received by the Candidate Care Centre of Prometric and by the IIMs, the telephone calls made by candidates at the Candidate Care Centre, the site and audit reports made by Prometric and NIIT personnel in charge of the labs at the test centre, problems and situations reported by the media, and discussions on blogs and websites. The categories of problems faced by candidates include premature exit due to inadvertent use of “End” button on the review screen in the first few days of testing period; disruptions caused due to malfunctioning of computers; missing graphics and data; and consequent rescheduling of test. Prometric has provided us with data from various sources mentioned above as well as select computer data on the candidates and some video footages. We have also received analysis of computer data identifying candidates who experienced any form of disruption/rebooting of their machine. This is helping us analyze the nature and extent of problems that the candidates faced and identify candidates who were genuinely affected by them.

There are, however, several claims that have been made about many problems and they require some reflection. For instance, the “End” button problem – it appears that barely 500 candidates faced this situation over the 11 day window. More importantly, once a candidate presses the “End” button, a message first appears on the screen which alerts a candidate that there are unanswered questions and asks whether the candidate really wants to exit (i.e., by pressing an “End” button one does not exit automatically). The cursor sits on the reply NO and the candidate has to move the cursor to YES and press it before he/she exits. Besides, from day 2 onwards, all candidates were being alerted through repeated announcements to be careful in using these buttons.

Similarly, video footage exists from every room and every test administration and is now being reviewed to identify labs that were affected, as claimed. It may be stated that the question sequence in any lab is also randomized. Consequently, any two candidates sitting on adjacent computers are most likely to be seeing very different questions at any given point of time. This reduces any chance of gaining from any form of cheating (which would also be identified through the video review).

Unlike testing on a single day (as CAT was in the past), whenever multiple day testing is undertaken, a large number of questions have to be developed with the same level of difficulty. This requires a different technology for generation of tests and establishing their equivalence. All the tests over this 11 day period were dissimilar while asking questions that test similar concepts. However, by design, the test included a few questions that were common in at most two tests. This is a standard practice followed by all tests that are offered over multiple days (including GRE, GMAT, TOEFL etc) to develop equivalence in terms of difficulty between two tests. It helps in making appropriate adjustments for varying difficulty levels thereby making the scores comparable across multiple days of testing. A few common situations may occur across different tests forms but key data has always been different in all and each situation was asking a different question or requiring a different analysis. These may have given an impression that questions have been repeated when that may not be true. This kind of testing process and its evaluation system which is common in other established tests such as GRE, GMAT, and TOEFL needs to be understood.

We would like to inform all the candidates that Prometric uses a robust encryption technology for uploading all the data that will not be affected by any virus. We have been assured that computer data on the test from all candidates have been successfully uploaded from all the labs.

The Directors of IIMs met on 13 December 2009 to take stock of the situation. Based on a detailed review, the directors decided to continue with computerized CAT 2009. This would be fair to a very large percentage (96%) of candidates who successfully completed the test. In addition, to be fair to those who experienced difficulties during the test, the directors decided to provide an opportunity to test in the second half of January 2010. On this testing date, candidates who remain to be tested and all those who, through a review process, are found to have been genuinely affected by various glitches during the first testing period will be asked to appear for the test. IIMs are in the process of setting up the criteria that will be used to identify candidates eligible for the test to be held in January. The candidates thus identified will be informed by Prometric in the coming weeks by email.

The IIMs would like to assure all concerned that through the above process fairness would have been achieved in the conduct of CAT 2009.”

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Intense
#102 December 18, 2009, 12:34 pm

@Sudhanshu S,

Forget about me, whether I am doing time pass or not, I am damn sure even a retest is not going to help you…Stop begging for a free seat.You don’t have guts to face the truth…Be it a paper pencil or Online, you do not have chance any where..

Kaushik
#103 December 18, 2009, 12:53 pm

@Intense
I think this is the first time you have managed to answer some question by knowing some questions,peeping at other computers and intentionally rebooting machines…Well Done!!!Look even the IIM’s support you…We know that if there is a retest you would as usual perform miserably in it…But don’t worry you have good friends in corrupt Satish Deodhar and Sameer Barua…But don’t be too happy…Let the results come out and then rejoice…may be it would be clearer then as to who the REAL BEGGAR IS!!!

Sk007
#104 December 18, 2009, 12:58 pm

Well.. one Qs that really bothers me….when they say the Qs were of similar difficulty, are they planning to provide percentile on overall score irrespective of the test date as opposite to seperate percentile for each slot…Because of their mention of statistical method, I was presuming a seperate percentile for each slot, but i guess I was wrong…difficulty level was same…who the hell you are kidding…..

Sk007
#105 December 18, 2009, 1:03 pm

Please plz IIMs if not a retest u shd definetly consider a slot based percentile… :(

manjushaa
#106 December 18, 2009, 1:04 pm

i hope u folks have read this
http://www.mbauniverse.com/campusinner.php?id=2699
The IIMs r now blaming us for their screw up

Panigrahi
#107 December 18, 2009, 1:20 pm
Halemani
#108 December 18, 2009, 1:27 pm

Guys, forget what happened. Just think what is over action plan. Do we allow this CAT to ruin our life or we take control of it? Dont tell that you have worked very hard for this, but dont you think it will pay off in other exams. IIMs are not the only schools. There are others too, look for them….As far as I am concerned I F@#ked it up bad. The whole preparation was bad. But hey! life is sometimes unfair and it kicks you when you are down.

Sridhar
#109 December 18, 2009, 1:29 pm

@ Mods,

It is possible that I am a little bit late with the idea, but did it strike you any time that there could be good scope to start a 24-hour Educational channel for higher education? I know Raghav Behl (of CNBC TV18) had similar plans (Topper TV) and UGC mulled over the idea with “Vyas” channel, but looks like they’ve shelved the plans.

There is no TV channel dedicated exclusively to higher education in India. Especially, from the private sector.

If you do take the initiative to start a TV channel for higher education, I will be eager to join you guys. With the kind of chaos, confusion, mismanagement seen during the 10 day window for CAT 2009, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are exposes to do 24/7 and I would be happy to do so !!!

Harry99
#110 December 18, 2009, 1:35 pm

@ Intense

It must have felt like a slap in the face that I didnt even have to defend myself, others did it for me :)

I always knew that there would be people like you, and I dont blame you. If u read what I’ve written u’d understand that I am disappointed that there are no slot based percentiles. Id be more than happy if (inspite of the cheating.. and according to you, my poor attempts) there is atleast a slot based percentile.

Assuming that I am a bad loser.. I cant see why you are so scared of a retest? U would surely do well… I suppose… :D

For the record, I’d taken BOTH the IMS and TIME Test series and consistently scored in the nineties. :)

Sudhanshu S
#111 December 18, 2009, 1:43 pm

@ Intense
This poor fellow is a prometric employ, who can’t grow up and thinks others like same.

Pavan Kumar Manda
#112 December 18, 2009, 1:56 pm

@Intense
I have been in these forums for 2 years now and I browse through many forums on many topics, but One thing I can tell you and without exaggerating is that I havent seen a sick person as you in any forums. Stop being personal and let us know why you think there shouldnt be retest. We have given our reasons as to why it should be. And what makes you so arrogant?? Learn to be humble and it will do a world of good. For the record, I dint have any glitches and made good enough attempts and have a decent chance to make it. So stop shouting and starting discussing.

nishu_rains
#113 December 18, 2009, 2:01 pm

hi gang..

yar instead of fighting amongst ourselves we should take legal step, to put a stay order on the results.
fighting here will help us in no way.

bhagyesh
#114 December 18, 2009, 2:24 pm

hey ,
i think the latest decision by iims are fair enuf to each and evry1,be it the students who could not complete d exams or the ones who completed it.
a retest to only the students who could not complete d test is a nice decision for a person like me who managed to do my best here and i think a lot of people will agree with me here, also to those who want a reschedule- they have one now !! so bloody prov urself now …..& all d best

Amit_is_back
#115 December 18, 2009, 2:40 pm

@Pavan Kumar Handa
“For the record, I dint have any glitches and made good enough attempts and have a decent chance to make it. So stop shouting and starting discussing.
“..Yeah dude..u sure are one “humble” guy! :O

Gy3
#116 December 18, 2009, 2:59 pm

What to they have to say about wrong questions in the exam. Even your experts are not fit to take error free question paper IIMs?
There were only 55 correct questions in my test paper.. Is it my fault? IIMs should answer this…

Raja_The_Ruler
#117 December 18, 2009, 3:13 pm

Can we really compare paper leak to technical problem?

spy
#118 December 18, 2009, 3:15 pm

What about the noise/disturbances….???? It was extremely difficult to concentrate in such a mess……Even class V exams are conducted in a much better manner……..Anyways, praying to be one of the lucky winners of CAT JACKPOT on 22 JAN….

puys_am
#119 December 18, 2009, 3:30 pm

i dont understand why ppl are giving philosophical crap like life is unfair, move on, every1 makes mistakes and so did the IIMs etc etc…i agree every1 makes mistakes, but at what cost?? careers of so many students??.spilling water on somebody is a mistake, stabbing with a knife is a crime…for ppl announcing ‘life is unfair’..ya,we actually agree with u all..but that is the premise and not the conclusion..the conclusion is if life is unfair then fight it out..Some of them are detesting retest cz they have done well by honest means..m no way questioning their propensity!! congrats boss..but u were lucky..cz there are a lot of them who have the same caliber or better but cudnt do well cz of several reasons..reasons which were never their faults..no normalization can take care of that..

puys_am
#120 December 18, 2009, 3:40 pm

please dont make loose statements like i think IIMs have been fair enuff..u clearly dont have ur facts in place..ppl have been offering u enuff explanations with an expectation that u wud understand..u r judging the fairness of the test on the basis ur experience with the xam..but sadly my frend that does not make the xam fair as such..people appealing for the retest and calling the test unfair have proofs..u c not everybody makes loose comments..

Anurag
#121 December 18, 2009, 4:01 pm

Test !!!

varunbudde
#122 December 18, 2009, 4:56 pm

@Harry99 wow, You done a great job comparing IIMs and Aamir Kasab. But the only problem is that, the motive of each ones task is very different and simply cannot be compared. Kasab came on to kill people and achieved it, IIMs definitely anticipated a smooth test and the glitches were not deliberate…

The bottom line is you did not get my point… or may be u just do not want to understand what I am trying to say.. whatever it is …. no problems at all … none of us loose anything !!!!

shibuonenonly
#123 December 18, 2009, 7:27 pm

only 1% make it to IIM’s . SO whats this bullshit with 4% !!!

shibuonenonly
#124 December 18, 2009, 7:28 pm

And yes.. CAT commitee must not be headed by a single person.. Wrong organizational design.. Must 3 to 4 from different IIM’s and even one from outside

ramesh
#125 December 18, 2009, 9:15 pm

forget CAT get on with yor lives puys.. there’s always a next time

RANGEELA
#126 December 18, 2009, 10:34 pm

@HARRY
–technical glitches can really affect u….they have been resolved
–CHEATING i dont think was rampant…..yaar u tell me…almost evry one belongs 2 retest camp….on pg polls 3000 want a retest…this speaks much about rampancy of cheating…(i know pg represents only few aspirants…but it has a good enough sample size…otherwise all PG cutoff polls would have miserably failed…)

bro even i didnt cheat..and i want a good b-skool…
all i wanna say is im not 4 this retest….im not stopping u frm protesting…if u succeed…i’ll take cat again in jan/feb…

If u wont i wud prepare to beat the hell out of those cheaters….
But I refuse to cry day and night..lamenting bout cheating…
my view- cheating even it really happened would be MORE A CONCERN TO IIMS THAN US….

THIS IS NOT A STAR-PLUS SOP that IIM ppl turned fiendish all of a sudden….
u say its a COVER-UP……OKI i agree this is a coverup….cheating was rampant…iim ppl receivd money…all idiots will get in2 iims…IIM PPL saved their faces….
BUT BUT BUT…
wt will happen during the sessions…will idiots survive..
wt will happen at placements….companies would select idiots…
HOW WILL IIM PPL SAVE THEIR FACES THEN….they wont be able 2 and hence they wont let it happen….these days they are more tensed than u ever were…

BE COOL BE CALM and think….

RANGEELA
#127 December 18, 2009, 10:47 pm

LATEST STATEMENTS FROM IIMS

Cheating? No way possible!
The latest PR exercise by the IIMs also tries to tackle all the complaints related to wide scale cheating.

It says, “Video footage exists from every room and every test administration and is now being reviewed to identify labs that were affected, as claimed. It may be stated that the question sequence in any lab is also randomized. Consequently, any two candidates sitting on adjacent computers are most likely to be seeing very different questions at any given point of time. This reduces any chance of gaining from any form of cheating (which would also be identified through the video review).

Don’t complain on the fairness! Learn about GMAT first
Regarding the complaints of repeat of patterns of questions and similar difficulty level of questions the latest announcement says ‘they may not be true’. The statement tries to convey that the test takers do not have any understanding of the computer based testing technology. It tells the test takers to try to understand the tests such as GRE, GMAT and TOEFL to gain better understanding of CAT 2009 computer based test.

It says, “Unlike testing on a single day (as CAT was in the past), whenever multiple day testing is undertaken, a large number of questions have to be developed with the same level of difficulty. This requires a different technology for generation of tests and establishing their equivalence. All the tests over this 11 day period were dissimilar while asking questions that test similar concepts. However, by design, the test included a few questions that were common in at most two tests. This is a standard practice followed by all tests that are offered over multiple days (including GRE, GMAT, TOEFL etc) to develop equivalence in terms of difficulty between two tests. It helps in making appropriate adjustments for varying difficulty levels thereby making the scores comparable across multiple days of testing. A few common situations may occur across different tests forms but key data has always been different in all and each situation was asking a different question or requiring a different analysis. These may have given an impression that questions have been repeated when that may not be true. This kind of testing process and its evaluation system which is common in other established tests such as GRE, GMAT, and TOEFL needs to be understood.”

Harry99
#128 December 18, 2009, 10:51 pm

@ varunbudde

I get your point, and I dont have anything against you. Just tell me one thing..

If someone has made a mistake isnt it their duty to correct it?

Harry99
#129 December 18, 2009, 11:39 pm

@ Rangeela

Your comments are encouraging :)

I dont think the technical glitches are really an issue as long as everyone gets to give the test properly.. so I agree with you on this.

About the cheating, none of us can predict how rampant it was but I hope that doesnt make it a non-issue! The 2003 scenario is a case in point.. If then… why not now? you have to concede that this time the number of cheaters is much larger..

That apart.. the biggest reason I favor a retest is the varying difficulty levels. If the IIMs are going to say that all the papers had the same difficulty levels then people like me just have to shout out yaar. You are a smart guy.. just tell me, is it even practically possible that all the papers had the same level of difficulty? As I have mentioned before.. I would have far lesser complaints if atleast there were a slot wise percentile.. but all seems lost.. :|

I hope you are proven right and the undeserving people dont survive.. but shouldnt they have been filtered out in the first place?..

isnt that what the CAT is supposed to do..?? :D

Ive realized that writing stuff here isnt really gonna help, we can go on and everyones gonna take a stand which suits them best.. Fair Enough.. :)

Guess I should focus on whats left.. Nice talkin to you and best wishes :)

@ all : Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Chandu
#130 December 19, 2009, 12:31 am

@Intense: I seriously doubt if I can find another moron like you in my life time. You really stink this forum. Who knows may be one day you ll become an IIM Director.

RANGEELA
#131 December 19, 2009, 1:23 am

@harry

brother this i what im tryin to convey 2 ppl here…

they did a blunder we all agree…now
the process is that we highlight issues…and let them come up with solutions…and they have been coming forward with solutions..

but what is sad to see is…whatever solution they propose ppl do 2 things:
a)lambaste them….say that they are bastards and liars…
b)come up with ever new cheating schemes…

bro as pointed out by you….everybody wants some kind of normalization…
thru a formula…thru separate percentiles per slot etc and other methods..

but if they havent announced it doesnt mean that they wont do it..
similarly main dudes/dudettes cry of marking scheme…bro sure they must be having one….dislosing it or not wouldnt make a difference…. we all refrain 4m makin guesses/taking shortcuts after a limit…

but many ppl here just wanna burn iims down…kill ppl at iims…
ppl atleast give them an opportunity to do some wrong…
instead pehel hi log halla bol kar rahe hain…
“they are not equalising scores..
they dont have any marking scheme…
they wont check the video…
they dont have any data on individual test time happenings”

they have said that question statements/wordings were almost same but things asked were different..now no one has come forward with a concrete proof to refute this….

so i jus want to convey…..that lets not fuel this fire of rumours and canards….lets see wt they do and then act accordingly…
i also belong to the same group as u do..im here at my home since past 5 months….im worried too….even i didnt cheat….sure buddy everyone genuine must be afraid of the camera even though it might not be working….

WELL I COULD BE COMPLETELY WRONG….friends but keeping these things in mind i find that im very calm and composed….taking tension wont solve any problem…and CHAKKA JAAM etc could prove devastating to careers of many….atleast i wouldnt do that…

lets wait till 22…and hope 4 the best..

best wishes 2 u and all puys….

Mayank
#132 December 19, 2009, 7:22 am

CNN-IBN just aired a report on CAT ’09 in their morning show IBN morning.
The rhetoric was clearly pro-retest and raised doubts on the selective-retest measure, which stands to benefit only a select few.

dev
#133 December 19, 2009, 2:31 pm

hey frnds what they r missing is just a commonsense because even 4% who are suffered , suffered so badly that proves it to be a failure exam

if u dont work on data there are atleast 50% who have glitches in their exam. why iims r nt thinking it in a simple & practical manner that such a important exam & such a worst experience

vinnuofvit
#134 December 19, 2009, 6:04 pm

Probability of that 4% (10,000) being the could-have-been 99%ilers = 0.. that’s wat IIM’s statement means right??
Man! we CAT-aspirants are good at probability..

Unfortunately for IIMs, they still haven’t figured out what their EGO is gonna cost them. Their very quality at question.
And i really don’t want to my ‘real ability’ being questioned in a PI, if i get thro’ this CAT. I won’t have an answer. who will..

niketan777
#135 December 19, 2009, 7:31 pm
niketan777
#136 December 19, 2009, 8:09 pm

@rangeela

Brother all your points are correct, infact they are so correct that it leaves nothing to debate. But lemme just throw my opinion and my perspective to this debate…..

i appeared for my CAT on 5th, Dec 3:30 slot. My center had no problems whatsoever with all the server crashes, viruses etc. It was pretty much smooth sailing for me but for the minor blip that the paper started an hour and a half late but that’s ok. So, i started solving my questions in the limited elbow space that was provided.Now it so happened that i was sittin in such a position that the guy next to me could see my entire screen just by rollin his eyes to d left a little. Meanwhile in the time i had b4 d CAT xam we started talkin and he told me that he was appearin for the CAT just to see what CAT’s actually like. Now by the end of the exam he had copied all of my DI and VA and solved QA on his own. Uski ho gayi balle balle, while the invigilators/proctors were having there evening and tea and samosas.

That again i understand is a trivial issue as my ideals say that u never get anywhere by copying. But this is hardly an ideal world. My friend who graduated from Narsee monjee has a package of 12.5L now. He cleared NMAT 2006 (by his own admission) thanks to the 5 IIM call guy sittin next to him, appearin for NMAT just to top it. CAT till this year’s fiasco was the only exam that was held in the most professional manner. The luck factor should’nt extend beyond the extra attempts u made in the exam .

All i am sayin is that there are people here for whom this year CAT could have been life defining and the least they could have asked for is a fairly conducted exam. i dnt advocate for a retest, niether do i oppose it. If the majority of the puys think that a retest would be the fairest solution, than its a majority point of view and not necessarily correct point of view.

The solution that i can think of (if the retest does nt happen) is to follow an american system for admissions. For eg GMAT is a minimum criterion for most schools. For eg u should have a 600 to qualify and then the weightage system follows. The weightage is for your essays, your work-ex and your statement of purpose and ur letters of recommendation. After that filtering process a GD/PI ensues that seperates the wheat from the chaff. Why i think this is the best way of selection is because this way a well rounded individual who’s claim to fame is not just scoring a 99%ile in CAT. This will also remove the strenglehold on IIM’s by the elite IIT and the engineering crowd ( main bhi engineer hun yaar, nd u knw we do have an advantage).

chaitu_pun
#137 December 19, 2009, 8:32 pm

@niketan777
Please restrain from making inhuman comments .. U are making merry for a gory incident like that ???

SANISH
#138 December 21, 2009, 8:49 am

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